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Of “living” or “organic” quality in comparison to sampled pianos which sound “dead.” Phil Best regularly makes these kinds of claims in his videos. After several years playing both Pianoteq and top quality sampled pianos, I have to say that I’ve never found this to be the case. Yes the playability on Pianoteq is excellent, but there is no magic “living” quality that I can discern, and a well engineered sampled piano is just as (if not more) capable of producing a natural organic quality. In fact, the most natural playing and sounding virtual piano I know of is the VSL Bluthner, while feels more like a living, breathing instrument under my fingers than any modeled piano I’ve tried. The vintage tone may not be to everyone’s taste, or suitable for all repertoire, but in terms of creating an authentic and alive playing experience, it’s absolute tops in my book.Okay, I’m going to retreat to my bunker now to avoid the incoming bombs. 🫣Joined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,8301000 Post Club Member1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,830Quite a few people seem to be claiming there are no differences between Pianoteq 7 and Pianoteq 8. I've had a chance to A/B test multiple pianos and there are most definitely some nice improvements. I feel it as improved vibrancy and sparkle. Nice changes in the bass as well, in my opinion.This is an easy comparison between the Ant. Petrof on Pianoteq 7.5.4 vs Pianoteq 8. You can compare the entire recording or jump directly to the deep-linked times to compare some more obvious differences.7.5.4 @ 1 minute 10 second mark: 8.0.0 @ 1 minute 10 second mark: I'm enjoying Pianoteq 8 very much!Joined: Sep 2020Posts: 111Full MemberFull MemberJoined: Sep 2020Posts: 111Thank you for posting those videos, Navindra! I was looking forward to hearing new recordings from you on Pianoteq 8, so it was great to hear your impressions. Thanks for showcasing how the tone is improved - that really did bring a lot of clarity. I loved your performance of Last Dance... it actually inspired me to go and practice that piece myself. Happy Post-Thanksgiving!Last edited by Tozen; 11/25/22 03:49 PM.Joined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,8301000 Post Club Member1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,830Thank you for posting those videos, Navindra! I was looking forward to hearing new recordings from you on Pianoteq 8, so it was great to hear your impressions. Thanks for showcasing how the tone is improved - that really did bring a lot of clarity. I loved your performance of Last Dance... it actually inspired me to go and practice that piece myself. Happy Post-Thanksgiving!Thank you! That's great to hear. I've always felt like this piece was somewhat under-appreciated. I agree. Pianoteq Stage/Play to Standard 8 Upgrade is for owners of Pianoteq Stage or Play Editions (versions 1 through 8) who want access to Pianoteq 8 Standard Edition. The Pianoteq Stage to Pro 8 Upgrade is for owners of Pianoteq Stage Edition (versions 1 through 8) who want access to Pianoteq 8 Pro Edition. The Pro Edition is adapted for the Pianoteq Standard to Pro 8 Upgrade is for owners of Pianoteq Standard Edition (versions 1 through 8) who want access to Pianoteq 8 Pro Edition. The Pro Edition is adapted Pianoteq Stage to Pro 8 Upgrade is for owners of Pianoteq Stage Edition (versions 1 through 8) who want access to Pianoteq 8 Pro Edition. The Pro Edition is adapted for the pianoteq 8 vs 7 (Page 1) - Pianoteq user forum - Modartt user forum - pianoteq 8 vs 7 (Page 1) - Pianoteq user forum - Modartt user forum - Pianoteq Stage to Pro 8 Upgrade is for owners of Pianoteq Stage Edition (versions 1 through 8) who want access to Pianoteq 8 Pro Edition. The Pro Edition is adapted for the creative Pianoteq Stage/Play to Standard 8 Upgrade is for owners of Pianoteq Stage or Play Editions (versions 1 through 8) who want access to Pianoteq 8 Standard Edition. The Standard Edition You are not logged in. Please login or register. Pages 1 You must login or register to post a reply 1 20-02-2025 10:24 vertumno Member Offline Registered: 20-02-2025 Posts: 2 Topic: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? Hello everyone,I'm testing the trial version of Pianoteq (stage and standard) I find really good and inspiring.I have a question about overtones, in a YouTube video I saw a user with the Pro version playing overtones (always a problem in sampled pianos)However when I tried to play overtones on my trial version only the 1st and octave overtones would be really heard.I.e. if I play C4 muted, I can make resonate the other strings only playing C3 and C5, C6...If I play E3 for example to make the sympathetic C strings resonate I can hardly hear anything if at all.So are overtones different across section of Pianoteq?Also in said video the user was able to bring the velocity down to zero thus playing only the overtones, without the fundamental, I wasn't able to replicate that too on my trial version...Any idea of what's going on?Many thanks 2 Reply by brundlefly 27-02-2025 01:25 brundlefly Member Offline Registered: 31-03-2022 Posts: 212 Re: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? Yes, Pianoteq produces the full complexity of resonances in a piano, including string, duplex string and case resonances, and not just octaves. I suspect what you were seeing was a demonstration of Pianoteq being used as resonance FX for another instrument in which case you would send the MIDI to both the main instrument and Pianoteq but pull the velocity curve down to zero so that Pianoteq resonates based the audio input from the main instrument and which dampers are raised (per the MIDI input) without its strings being directly hammered.I'm not sure right offhand whether the demo can be used as a resonance FX and I suspect you need at least Pianoteq Standard to get it, but all verisons should have the basic resonance response for all the internal sounds; you just don't have as much control over them in Stage. 3 Reply by vertumno 03-03-2025 14:48 vertumno Member Offline Registered: 20-02-2025 Posts: 2 Re: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? brundlefly wrote:Yes, Pianoteq produces the full complexity of resonances in a piano, including string, duplex string and case resonances, and not just octaves. I suspect what you were seeing was a demonstration of Pianoteq beingComments
Of “living” or “organic” quality in comparison to sampled pianos which sound “dead.” Phil Best regularly makes these kinds of claims in his videos. After several years playing both Pianoteq and top quality sampled pianos, I have to say that I’ve never found this to be the case. Yes the playability on Pianoteq is excellent, but there is no magic “living” quality that I can discern, and a well engineered sampled piano is just as (if not more) capable of producing a natural organic quality. In fact, the most natural playing and sounding virtual piano I know of is the VSL Bluthner, while feels more like a living, breathing instrument under my fingers than any modeled piano I’ve tried. The vintage tone may not be to everyone’s taste, or suitable for all repertoire, but in terms of creating an authentic and alive playing experience, it’s absolute tops in my book.Okay, I’m going to retreat to my bunker now to avoid the incoming bombs. 🫣Joined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,8301000 Post Club Member1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,830Quite a few people seem to be claiming there are no differences between Pianoteq 7 and Pianoteq 8. I've had a chance to A/B test multiple pianos and there are most definitely some nice improvements. I feel it as improved vibrancy and sparkle. Nice changes in the bass as well, in my opinion.This is an easy comparison between the Ant. Petrof on Pianoteq 7.5.4 vs Pianoteq 8. You can compare the entire recording or jump directly to the deep-linked times to compare some more obvious differences.7.5.4 @ 1 minute 10 second mark: 8.0.0 @ 1 minute 10 second mark: I'm enjoying Pianoteq 8 very much!Joined: Sep 2020Posts: 111Full MemberFull MemberJoined: Sep 2020Posts: 111Thank you for posting those videos, Navindra! I was looking forward to hearing new recordings from you on Pianoteq 8, so it was great to hear your impressions. Thanks for showcasing how the tone is improved - that really did bring a lot of clarity. I loved your performance of Last Dance... it actually inspired me to go and practice that piece myself. Happy Post-Thanksgiving!Last edited by Tozen; 11/25/22 03:49 PM.Joined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,8301000 Post Club Member1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,830Thank you for posting those videos, Navindra! I was looking forward to hearing new recordings from you on Pianoteq 8, so it was great to hear your impressions. Thanks for showcasing how the tone is improved - that really did bring a lot of clarity. I loved your performance of Last Dance... it actually inspired me to go and practice that piece myself. Happy Post-Thanksgiving!Thank you! That's great to hear. I've always felt like this piece was somewhat under-appreciated. I agree
2025-04-18You are not logged in. Please login or register. Pages 1 You must login or register to post a reply 1 20-02-2025 10:24 vertumno Member Offline Registered: 20-02-2025 Posts: 2 Topic: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? Hello everyone,I'm testing the trial version of Pianoteq (stage and standard) I find really good and inspiring.I have a question about overtones, in a YouTube video I saw a user with the Pro version playing overtones (always a problem in sampled pianos)However when I tried to play overtones on my trial version only the 1st and octave overtones would be really heard.I.e. if I play C4 muted, I can make resonate the other strings only playing C3 and C5, C6...If I play E3 for example to make the sympathetic C strings resonate I can hardly hear anything if at all.So are overtones different across section of Pianoteq?Also in said video the user was able to bring the velocity down to zero thus playing only the overtones, without the fundamental, I wasn't able to replicate that too on my trial version...Any idea of what's going on?Many thanks 2 Reply by brundlefly 27-02-2025 01:25 brundlefly Member Offline Registered: 31-03-2022 Posts: 212 Re: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? Yes, Pianoteq produces the full complexity of resonances in a piano, including string, duplex string and case resonances, and not just octaves. I suspect what you were seeing was a demonstration of Pianoteq being used as resonance FX for another instrument in which case you would send the MIDI to both the main instrument and Pianoteq but pull the velocity curve down to zero so that Pianoteq resonates based the audio input from the main instrument and which dampers are raised (per the MIDI input) without its strings being directly hammered.I'm not sure right offhand whether the demo can be used as a resonance FX and I suspect you need at least Pianoteq Standard to get it, but all verisons should have the basic resonance response for all the internal sounds; you just don't have as much control over them in Stage. 3 Reply by vertumno 03-03-2025 14:48 vertumno Member Offline Registered: 20-02-2025 Posts: 2 Re: Are overtones different between Pianoteq versions? brundlefly wrote:Yes, Pianoteq produces the full complexity of resonances in a piano, including string, duplex string and case resonances, and not just octaves. I suspect what you were seeing was a demonstration of Pianoteq being
2025-04-18Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound fore wrote:when I played my dp, the keys would go up and down in the the programs interface, but no sound going thru the laptop.That should be fairly simple to correct.Click on the Options button in upper right side of interface.You should see AUDIO DEVICE TYPE: with a selection menu.Click on it and select WINDOWS AUDIO.That should send the output through your computer speakers. 5 Reply by fore 02-02-2014 17:30 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound I'm using a macbook pro, and I have 'built in output' under Output, and 'output 1 and output 2' selected in Active Output Channel. 6 Reply by custral 02-02-2014 17:31 custral Member Offline Registered: 22-08-2010 Posts: 288 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound Sometimes, it needs that I quit the ASIO4ALL control panel before right function occurs. It's instant. 7 Reply by fore 02-02-2014 17:39 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound oh well, i might just give up on this. too aggravating. 8 Reply by mabry 03-02-2014 00:02 mabry Member Offline Registered: 25-02-2010 Posts: 118 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound fore wrote:oh well, i might just give up on this. too aggravating.This is understandable but please be aware that it is not Pianoteq that is at fault, these types of problems arise due to the complexity of creating audio on PCs; be glad you have a Mac, Windows is probably even more difficult to work with. 9 Reply by fore 03-02-2014 00:48 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound mabry wrote:fore wrote:oh well, i might just give up on this. too aggravating.This is understandable but please be aware that it is not Pianoteq that is at fault, these types of problems arise due to the complexity of creating audio on PCs; be glad you have a Mac, Windows is probably even more difficult to work with.I hope you're right. I've tried every configuration with no luck. And so strange, it worked perfectly with the exact same hookup and settings. Missed it today while practicing If anyone has an idea, feel free...Edit: Another forum made a suggestion, turning down the vol on my 105. Worked! I had no idea the vol was supposed to be turned down at all. I feel pretty dumb Anyway, the quirky thing is there's a ping sound with every key played. I have no special effects turned on. Last edited by fore (03-02-2014 01:24) 10 Reply by fore 03-02-2014 17:55 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound Listening more carefully last night, the ping is w. releasing
2025-03-31Pro | Garritan CFX Full | Vienna Imperial | Keyscape Full | Ravenscroft 275 - Modern U - Model D - AG | Minigrand | The OeserJoined: May 2018Posts: 1,9651000 Post Club MemberOP1000 Post Club MemberJoined: May 2018Posts: 1,965Why i like Pianoteq:1. Standalone and no fiddling with things like iLok etc.2. Low Requirements (Space, CPU, RAM)3. Short Loading Times4. Many Instruments5. A ton of settings6. Short latency without additional workIn principle, I agree with you on all those points. However, I recently bought Ivory II Studio Grands, and they fare like this:1. Standalone and no fiddling with things like iLok etc.2. Low Requirements (running on an old, refubished DELL core-i3 office PC).3. Short Loading Times (similar to Pianoteq).4. Two Instruments.5. A ton of settings6. Short latency without additional workPretty much the same as Pianoteq, and the Studio Grands sound far better. I wish Modarrt could fix the aspects of the sound that irritate (for me there is a kind of "voice less" burst of air right before every sound begins ... I know, difficult to convey meaningfully in words, but that's about the best I can do with this experience).I expect Pianoteq to be really good at some point in the future. My gut tells me that future is more than 10 years away.Physical instruments: Roland FP-30, and E-28Virtual instruments: "The Experience" piano collection, NI "The Maverick", Galaxy II Grand piano collection, Synthogy Ivory II Studio Grands, Production Voices Estate Grand, Garritan CFX Lite, Pianoteq 7.5.2Focus: 1850±100 yearsJoined: Oct 2020Posts: 53Full MemberFull MemberJoined: Oct 2020Posts: 53(for me there is a kind of "voice less" burst of air right before every sound begins ... I know, difficult to convey meaningfully in words, but that's about the best I can do with this experience).If it is before every key, then maybe the simulated action/key noise?If it is every time Pianoteq goes from silent to making sound, it could be some weird interaction with your audio card/drivers or the various buffer size settings. That might be worth asking Modartt about.Joined: May 2018Posts: 1,9651000 Post Club MemberOP1000 Post Club MemberJoined: May 2018Posts: 1,965(for me
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